Toby Jones isn’t your typical Hollywood actor, and he can be found in small indie films like his upcoming Berberian Sound Studio, and major blockbusters like The Hunger Games and Captain America. In a new interview with IndieWire, Toby talks about why he took the role of Claudius Templesmith in The Hunger Games.

Which is what allows you to do “The Hunger Games” and “Berberian Sound Studio” back to back.

Well, that’s like a different industry. The middle has fallen out in terms of budget for moviemaking. You have these microfilms and you have these juggernauts. Dealing with “Hunger Games” specifically, when I talked to [director] Gary [Ross], he was talking about how he wanted to make it, and I think everybody was surprised by the different styles he used within the film. It’s not a standard blockbuster. I have a very little thing to do in that film, but when he said, “Do you want to come improvise with Stanley Tucci,” I said, “Yeah, I do want to do that.” Also, my children love those books. So there’s many reasons to do it. And there are economic reasons as well. You’re just lucky when something is as good as “Hunger Games,” because it can also fund you doing something for nothing, doing a short film or something.

Read the full interview at IndieWire.